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Episode 18: Jennifer Griffin, Fox News
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Episode 18: Jennifer Griffin, Fox News

For Fox News national security correspondent Jennifer Griffin, it was in a quiet moment, exhausted after a nonstop month of work that the emotional impact of America’s exit from Afghanistan caught up with her. It was her first Saturday off in weeks, and she attended convocation at Georgetown, where her daughters had just started college.

“I sat there listening, feeling extremely emotional at the idea that they made the announcement that 60% of the Georgetown class were women this year,” Griffin told me, the pain and sadness catching in her throat. “And I just thought of those Afghan university students in Kabul, and how those girls are not going to be getting educated. It is too much. This is 20, 30 years of scar tissue.”


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